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Spotting Notes2017-03-07by Peter

From the Spotting Notes of Peter Hands - 50 YEARS AGO ON THIS DATE – 7th FEBRUARY 1965

From the Spotting Notes of Peter Hands - 50 YEARS AGO ON THIS DATE – 7th FEBRUARY 1965

Warwickshire Railway Society

Birmingham (New Street) – Crewe – Birmingham (New Street) 1Z65

Haulage throughout behind BR Britannia Class 4-6-2 No. 70042 Lord Roberts (5A Crewe – North)

2F BESCOT (passing)

LMS: Class 4F 0-6-0 No. 44188. Class 5 4-6-0 No. 45089. Class 8F 2-8-0’s Nos. 48338 (9B Stockport), 48522.

WD: Class 8F 2-8-0’s Nos. 90471 (41D Canklow), 90509 (41E Staveley – Barrow Hill).

5C STAFFORD (passing) 

LMS: Class 5 4-6-0 No. 45110. Class 8F 2-8-0 No. 48103 (16C Derby).

BR Britannia Class 4-6-2 No. 70042 Lord Roberts
BR Britannia Class 4-6-2 No. 70042 Lord RobertsBR Britannia Class 4-6-2 No. 70042 Lord Roberts, from 5A Crewe (North) speeds through Stafford and heads for Crewe with the Warwickshire Railway Society special from Birmingham (New Street) Photograph by Peter Hands

CREWE STATION

LMS: Class 5 4-6-0’s Nos. 44859 (2E Saltley), 45310 (2K Bushbury). Class 3F 0-6-0T’s Nos. 47399 (5B Crewe – South), 47494 (5B Crewe – South).

1Z65 special hauled into Crewe Works by: LMS Class 5 4-6-0 No. 45277 (6G Llandudno Junction) – ex. Works.

CREWE WORKS

Steam locomotives for overhaul/repairs:

LMS: Class 4 2-6-4T No. 42230 (16C Derby). Class 5 4-6-0’s Nos. 44678 (5A Crewe – North), 44684 (5B Crewe – South), 44686 (8M Southport), 44689 (12A Carlisle – Kingmoor), 44691 (2E Saltley), 44717 (16B Annesley), 44735 (9E Trafford Park), 44777 (2E Saltley), 44778 (10A Carnforth), 45126 (12A Carlisle – Kingmoor), 45238 (8B Warrington), 45270 (5D Stoke), 45300 (6J Holyhead). Class 8F 2-8-0’s Nos. 48035 (5B Crewe – South), 48132 (15B Wellingborough), 48151 (8A Edge Hill – Liverpool), 48166 (16B Annesley), 48194 (16F Burton), 48200 (8A Edge Hill – Liverpool), 48204 (16G Westhouses), 48315 (15E Coalville), 48322 (9G Gorton), 48327 (9F Heaton Mersey), 48374 (15B Wellingborough), 48376 (15B Wellingborough), 48423 (8H Birkenhead), 48501 (9F Heaton Mersey), 48505 (5B Crewe – South),  48612 (9D Newton Heath), 48692 (8C Speke Junction), 48697 (5D Stoke), 48702 (9K Bolton), 48739 (1H Northampton).

BR: Britannia Class 4-6-2’s Nos. 70015 Apollo (5A Crewe – North), 70022 (12B Carlisle – Upperby), 70035 Rudyard Kipling (12A Carlisle – Kingmoor), 70036 Boadicea (12A Carlisle – Kingmoor), 70041 Sir John Moore (12A Carlisle – Kingmoor), 70052 Firth of Tay (5A Crewe – North). Class 9F 2-10-0’s Nos. 92078 (16A Toton), 92093 (16B Annesley), 92107 (8H Birkenhead), 92113 (16B Annesley), 92160 (15C Kettering), 92211 (50A York).

Steam locomotives ex. Works:

LMS: Class 4 2-6-4T’s Nos. 42141 (55G Huddersfield), 42252 (6A Chester), 42468 (9H Patricroft), 42699 (55H Leeds – Neville Hill). Class 8F 2-8-0’s Nos. 48168 (16B Annesley), 48751 (5E Nuneaton).

BR: Britannia Class 4-6-2 No. 70045 Lord Rowallan (6J Holyhead). Class 9F 2-10-0 No. 92167 (8H Birkenhead).

BR Britannia Class 4-6-2 No. 70045 Lord Rowallan
BR Britannia Class 4-6-2 No. 70045 Lord RowallanMore metallic bric-a-brac at Crewe Works. Following overhaul the paintwork of LMS Class 4 2-6-4T No. 42141 (55G Huddersfield) and BR Britannia Class 4-6-2 No. 70045 Lord Rowallan (6J Holyhead) is positively gleaming on both locomotives. Note the oval buffers as affixed to Lord Rowallan. Photograph by Peter Hands

Steam locomotive in store:

BR: Duke Class 4-6-2 No. 71000 Duke of Gloucester.

Works Shunters:

LMS: Class 4F 0-6-0’s Nos. 44405, 44450. Class 3F 0-6-0T’s Nos. 47330, 47384, 47400, 47505, 47592 – ex. Works, 47597, 47615 – ex. Works, 47646, 47658, 47661.

LMS Class 3F 0-6-0T No. 47592
LMS Class 3F 0-6-0T No. 47592Crewe Works shunter (W15) LMS Class 3F 0-6-0T No. 47592, whilst out of steam, looks in fine external fettle amidst the pile of metal bric-a-brac and dumped boilers. No. 47592 was to remain active at Crewe Works until withdrawal in March 1966. Photograph by Peter Hands

Steam locomotives awaiting scrapping:

LMS: Class 4F 0-6-0’s Nos. 44137, 44373, 44593. Class 5 4-6-0 No. 45327.

GRESTY LANE SIDINGS

LMS: Class 5 4-6-0’s Nos. 44838 (8A Edge Hill – Liverpool), 45446 (5B Crewe – South). Class 3F 0-6-0T’s Nos. 47325 (5B Crewe – South), 47482 (5B Crewe – South).

LMS Class 3F 0-6-0T No. 47482
LMS Class 3F 0-6-0T No. 47482LMS Class 3F 0-6-0T No. 47482, of 5B Crewe (South), shunts empty bolster wagons at Gresty Lane. Note that the (cabside) numerals of 47482 are located in the less-than-normal position this being a legacy of an overhaul at the former NER workshops at Darlington. Photograph by Peter Hands

5B CREWE (SOUTH)

GWR: Grange Class 4-6-0’s Nos. 6854 Roundhill Grange (2B Oxley), 6855 Saighton Grange (2B Oxley), 6856 Stowe Grange (85A Worcester) – note the numerical sequence.

LMS: Class 6P5F 2-6-0 No. 42968 (8F Springs Branch Wigan). Class 4 2-6-0’s Nos. 43001, 43020, 43024, 43026, 43034, 43052, 43113, 43151. Class 4F 0-6-0 No. 44057 (2F Bescot). Class 5 4-6-0’s Nos. 44672 (12A Carlisle – Kingmoor), 44731 (8B Warrington), 44759, 45021, 45046, 45146 (5D Stoke), 45188 (8C Speke Junction), 45278 (8F Springs Branch Wigan), 45288 (2F Bescot), 45297, 45393 (1A Willesden). Class 3F 0-6-0T’s Nos. 47397, 47565, 47677, 47680. Class 8F 2-8-0’s Nos. 48094 (6B Mold Junction), 48098 (16E Kirkby), 48175 (6B Mold Junction), 48251, 48255, 48264 (5E Nuneaton), 48305, 48319 (10C Fleetwood), 48321 (9D Newton Heath), 48356 (15B Wellingborough), 48516 (5D Stoke), 48551, 48615 (8E Northwich), 48723 (6B Mold Junction), 48743.

BR: Class 5 4-6-0 No. 73038 (2B Oxley), 73044 (81F Oxford). Class 4 4-6-0 Nos. 75006 (5D Stoke), 75023 (5D Stoke), 75063 (6D Shrewsbury). Class 2 2-6-0’s Nos. 78007, 78010, 78030, 78031, 78036. Class 9F 2-10-0’s Nos. 92015 (12A Carlisle – Kingmoor), 92099 (52H Tyne Dock – awaiting works), 92205 (50A York).

In store:

LMS: Class 6P 5F 2-6-0 No. 42979. Class 4F 0-6-0 No. 44571. Jubilee Class 4-6-0 No. 45586 Mysore. Class 8F 2-8-0’s Nos. 48001, 48095. LNW Class 7F 0-6-0 No. 49407.

BR: Class 4 2-6-4T No. 80125.

BR Class 9F 2-10-0 No. 92099
BR Class 9F 2-10-0 No. 9209952H Tyne Dock based BR Class 9F 2-10-0 No. 92099 is far from home as it awaits being called into Crewe Works at 5B Crewe (South). Also in the frame are two LMS Class 5 4-6-0’s Nos. 45278 (8F Springs Branch Wigan) and 45188 (8C Speke Junction). Photograph by Peter Hands

5A CREWE (NORTH)

LMS: Class 2 2-6-2T’s Nos. 41212, 41229. Class 5 4-6-0’s Nos. 44683, 44765, 44819 (8B Warrington), 44838 (8A Edge Hill – Liverpool), 45350 (5D Stoke), 45376 (8A Edge Hill – Liverpool). Royal Scot Class 4-6-0 No. 46115 Scots Guardsman (12A Carlisle – Kingmoor). Class 3F 0-6-0T No. 47359 (5C Stafford). Class 8F 2-8-0 No. 48686 (5E Nuneaton).

BR: 70000 Britannia, 70010 Owen Gendower, 70014 Iron Duke, 70019 Lightning, 70021 Morning Star, 70024 Vulcan, 70029 Shooting Star (12B Carlisle – Upperby), 70031 Byron, 70034 Thomas Hardy, 70042 Lord Roberts, 70043 Lord Kitchener, 70044 Earl Haig, 70046 Anzac, 70050 Firth of Clyde, 70051 Firth of Forth, 70054 Dornoch Firth. Clan Class 4-6-2 No. 72005 Clan Macgregor (12A Carlisle – Kingmoor).

WD: Class 8F 2-8-0 No. 90279 (36A Doncaster.

In store:

 LMS: Jubilee Class 4-6-0’s Nos. 45554 Ontario, 45617 Mauritius, 45704 Leviathan.

46115 Scots Guardsman
46115 Scots GuardsmanBy early 1965 LMS Royal Scots and BR Clans were becoming thin on the ground so to spot two examples side by side at 5A Crewe (North) was quite a coup. Nearest the camera in the almost deserted yard is 46115 Scots Guardsman behind which is 72005 Clan Macgregor. Both locomotives are visitors to 5A from 12A Carlisle (Kingmoor). Photograph by Peter Hands

CREWE STATION

LMS: Class 5 4-6-0 No. 45441 (8C Speke Junction) – ‘Emerald Isle Express.’

BR: Britannia Class 4-6-2 No. 70017 (5A Crewe – North) – express.

BR: Britannia Class 4-6-2 No. 70018 Flying Dutchman (5A Crewe – North) – express.

BR: Britannia Class 4-6-2 No. 70023 Venus (5A Crewe – North) – 1X37 Edinburgh to Treherbert rugby special.

BR: Britannia Class 4-6-2 No. 70048 The Territorial Army 1908-1958 (12B Carlisle – Upperby) – express.

(All in all twenty-seven BR Britannia Class 4-6-2’s were observed)

BR Britannia Class 4-6-2 No. 70042 Lord Roberts
BR Britannia Class 4-6-2 No. 70042 Lord RobertsWith steam to spare BR Britannia Class 4-6-2 No. 70042 Lord Roberts stands on a centre road at Crewe station prior to attaching itself to the stock of the return special to Birmingham. Like many of its stablemates Lord Roberts ended up at 12A Carlisle (Kingmoor) prior to withdrawal. Photograph by Peter Hands