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Spotting Notes2017-03-03by Peter

From the spotting notes of Peter Hands – NORTH AND CENTRAL WALES – MID JULY 1963

From the spotting notes of Peter Hands – NORTH AND CENTRAL WALES – MID JULY 1963

NORTH AND CENTRAL WALES – MID JULY 1963 

Mode of transport: my first spotting trip on my brand new 49cc Raleigh Runabout Moped (complete with a suitcase and one-man tent on the small pannier)

SATURDAY 13th JULY

CRAVEN ARMS MPD (sub-shed of 89A Shrewsbury) 

GWR: 2251 Class 0-6-0 No. 3205 (86C Hereford). Grange Class 4-6-0 No. 6822 Manton Grange (86G Pontypool Road). 5700 Class 0-6-0PT No. 8702 (86C Hereford).

In store:

GWR: County Class 4-6-0’s Nos. 1017 County of Hereford, 1026 County of Salop. Castle Class 4-6-0 No. 5015 Kingswear Castle*. 4300 Class 2-6-0’s Nos. 7309, 7336.

*In WHTS Volume Two I wrongly published that 5015 was scrapped at Central Wagon, Ince, Wigan. In the November 2009 edition of The Railway Magazine there was an article published about (my) incorrect disposals information including 5015 which in actual fact was cut up at Ward’s, Broughton Lane, Sheffield. The reason for my error came about because of a report in the February 1964 edition of The Railway Magazine which stated that 5015 had been observed on route to Central Wagon. Other WHTS disposals errors highlighted in the November 2009 edition and subsequent releases included: 2876, 4907, 34034, 44134, 60886, 61177 and 61890. Again, all of these errors can be attributed to wrong information published in various railway publications.

Despite pointing out the above to both The Railway Magazine and the author of the articles I was never given the opportunity to ‘put the record straight.’

CRAVEN ARMS STATION

GWR Castle Class 4-6-0 No. 5043 Earl of Mount Edgcumbe (88L Cardiff East Dock) – express from Cardiff.

LMS Class 8F 2-8-0 No. 48732 (87F Llanelly) – freight from Shrewsbury to Swansea.

LMS Class 8F 2-8-0 No. 48760 (87F Llanelly) – freight from Shrewsbury to Swansea.

BR Class 5 4-6-0 No. 73034 (89A Shrewsbury) – freight to Shrewsbury.              

GWR Castle Class 4-6-0 No. 5043 Earl of Mount Edgcumbe
GWR Castle Class 4-6-0 No. 5043 Earl of Mount EdgcumbeWith steam to spare preserved GWR Castle Class 4-6-0 No. 5043 Earl of Mount Edgcumbe speeds towards Streetsbrook Road overbridge at Solihull with a return ‘Shakespeare Express’ from Stratford-upon-Avon to Birmingham (Snow Hill) on 13th September 2009. The scenery almost replicates my sighting of 5043 at Craven Arms on 13th July 1963. Photograph by Peter Hands

NEAR CHURCH STRETTON

GWR Modified Hall Class 4-6-0 No. 6997 Bryn-Ivor Hall (82B St. Philip’s Marsh) – Shrewsbury to Cardiff express.

89A SHREWSBURY

GWR: County Class 4-6-0 No. 1002 County of Berks. Castle Class 4-6-0 No. 5043 Earl of Mount Edgcumbe (88L Cardiff East Dock). Hall Class 4-6-0’s Nos. 5939 Tangley Hall (86B Newport – Ebbw Junction), 5984 Linden Hall (88L Cardiff East Dock). 4300 Class 2-6-0 No. 6357 (87F Llanelly). Grange Class 4-6-0’s Nos. 6834 Dummer Grange (84F Stourbridge), 6845 Paviland Grange (84E Tyseley). Hall Class 4-6-0 No. 6918 Sandon Hall (88L Cardiff East Dock). Modified Hall Class 4-6-0 No. 6964 Thornbridge Hall. Manor Class 4-6-0 No. 7812 Erlestoke Manor. 9400 Class 0-6-0PT’s Nos. 9463, 9498. 5700 Class 0-6-0PT No. 9657.

LMS: Class 2 2-6-2T’s Nos. 41203, 41209. Class 4 2-6-4T No. 42485 (5C Stafford). Class 5 4-6-0’s Nos. 44684 (5A Crewe – North), 45283, 45495 (8B Warrington). Jubilee Class 4-6-0’s Nos. 45572 Eire, 45660 Rooke. Royal Scot Class 4-6-0 No. 46132 The King’s Regiment, Liverpool (12B Carlisle – Upperby). Class 2 2-6-0’s Nos. 46505 (6A Chester), 46524, 46525. Class 8F 2-8-0’s Nos. 48400 (87F Llanelly), 48434 (87F Llanelly), 48436, 48738.

BR: Class 5 4-6-0’s Nos. 73024, 73034, 73036, 73070 (6A Chester), 73097. Class 4 2-6-4T No. 80100. Class 3 2-6-2T No. 82031 (89C Machynlleth).

In store: 

GWR: County Class 4-6-0 No. 1005 County of Devon. Hall Class 4-6-0 No. 4946 Moseley Hall.

LMS: Jubilee Class 4-6-0 No. 45575 Madras.

Hall Class 4-6-0 No. 6918 Sandon Hall
Hall Class 4-6-0 No. 6918 Sandon HallTwo years on from my sighting of Hall Class 4-6-0 No. 6918 Sandon Hall at 89A Shrewsbury, the locomotive is captured on camera speeding through Earlswood Lakes station with a down excursion on 31st July 1965. Photograph by Peter Hands

89D OSWESTRY

GWR: 1600 Class 0-6-0PT No. 1638. 2251 Class 0-6-0 No. 3200. 7400 Class 0-6-0PT No. 7446. Manor Class 4-6-0’s Nos. 7807 Compton Manor, 7820 Dinmore Manor (89A Shrewsbury), 7828 Odney Manor (89C Machynlleth).

LMS: Class 2 2-6-0’s Nos. 46511, 46513, 46514, 46518, 46520 (89C Machynlleth). Class 8F 2-8-0 No. 48768 (89A Shrewsbury).

BR: Class 4 2-6-4T’s Nos. 80078 (89B Croes Newydd), 80080 (89B Croes Newydd), 80098 (Machynlleth), 80131, 80132, 80135. Class 2 2-6-2T No. 84000.

In store:

GWR: 1400 Class 0-4-2T’s Nos. 1432, 1438. 5400 Class 0-6-0PT No. 5421. Castle Class 4-6-0 No. 7033 Hartlebury Castle. 7400 Class 0-6-0PT No. 7428.

GWR 2200 Class 0-6-0 No. 3200
GWR 2200 Class 0-6-0 No. 3200On a bitterly cold 23rd December 1962 GWR 2200 Class 0-6-0 No. 3200 is in store at 89D Oswestry with a sacked chimney in the company of 7400 Class 0-6-0PT No. 7434 (condemned on 23.10.62) on a siding well away from the running shed. Unlike No. 7434, No. 3200 lived to steam another day, not being withdrawn until January 1965. Photograph by Peter Hands

89B CROES NEWYDD

GWR: 1600 Class 0-6-0PT’s Nos. 1632, 1660, 1663. 5700 Class 0-6-0PT No. 3749. 2800 Class 2-8-0 No. 3865. 5700 Class 0-6-0PT No. 4645. 5600 Class 0-6-2T’s Nos. 6632, 6651, 6694. Grange Class 4-6-0 No. 6821 Leaton Grange (82B St. Philip’s Marsh). 5700 Class 0-6-0PT No. 9608.

LMS: Class 2 2-6-0 No. 46508.

BR: Class 4 4-6-0’s Nos. 75020, 75021, 75027. Class 4 2-6-4T No. 80096 (89C Machnlleth).

In store:

GWR: 5600 Class 0-6-2T No. 6674. 5700 Class 0-6-0PT No. 9793.

GWR 5600 Class 0-6-2T No. 6632
GWR 5600 Class 0-6-2T No. 6632With its safety valves gently lifting GWR 5600 Class 0-6-2T No. 6632, a resident of Croes Newydd depot, at rest near to the coaling stage of the same in the company of an unidentified GWR 4300 Class 2-6-0 – date unknown. Photograph by A. Wakefield

6B MOLD JUNCTION

GWR: County Class 4-6-0 No. 1020 County of Monmouth (82B St. Philip’s Marsh). 2800 Class 2-8-0 No. 2818 (87A Neath). Hall Class 4-6-0’s Nos. 5937 Stanford Hall (88L Cardiff East Dock), 6950 Kingsthorpe Hall (88L Cardiff East Dock). Modified Hall Class 4-6-0 No. 6974 Bryngwyn Hall (81C Southall).

LMS: Class 6P5F (Hughes) 2-6-0’s Nos. 42810 (6C Birkenhead), 42851 (8A Edge Hill – Liverpool). Class 6P5F (Stanier) 2-6-0 No. 42951. Class 4F 0-6-0’s Nos. 44063 (8B Warrington), 44359, 44478 (6H Bangor), 44595. Class 5     4-6-0’s Nos. 45042, 45237. Class 3F 0-6-0T’s Nos. 47350, 47410, 47646. Class 8F 2-8-0’s Nos. 48090, 48175, 48259, 48288 (9E Trafford Park), 48655, 48739 (89A Shrewsbury).

BR: Britannia Class 4-6-2 No. 70015 Apollo (6G Llandudno Junction).

WD: Class 8F 2-8-0 No. 90626 (9G Gorton).

ABERGELE & PENSARN STATION

(All of the below were recorded in order of passing on either express or empty coaching stock workings)

LMS: Class 5 4-6-0’s Nos. 44927 (24E Blackpool), 45275 (6B Mold Junction), 45419 (6A Chester), 44683 (5A Crewe – North), 45493 (6J Holyhead), 44829 (6J Holyhead), 44906 (8A Edge Hill – Liverpool), 45429 (6A Chester), 45073 (26A Newton Heath), 44739 (6G Llandudno Junction). Jubilee Class 4-6-0 No. 45614 Leeward Islands (17A Derby). Class 5 4-6-0’s Nos. 45325 (6B Mold Junction), 44971 (6B Mold Junction), 44772 (8A Edge Hill – Liverpool), 45369 (6G Llandudno Junction).

Lostock Hall No. 44683
Lostock Hall No. 44683One of the plethora of LMS Class 5 4-6-0’s seen in action at Abergele & Pensarn on 13th July 1965 is photographed in the shed yard at 10A Carnforth on 26th March 1968. Allocated to 10D Lostock Hall No. 44683 was withdrawn from service the following month. Photograph by Peter Hands

SUNDAY 14th JULY

ABERGELE & PENSARN STATION

LMS: Class 5 4-6-0 No. 44800 (6B Mold Junction) – express to Bangor.

LMS: Royal Scot Class 4-6-0 No. 46116 Irish Guardsman (12A Carlisle – Kingmoor) – express to Chester.

6G LLANDUDNO JUNCTION

LMS: Class 2 2-6-2T’s Nos. 41220, 41244. Class 4 2-6-4T No. 42482. Class 6P5F (Stanier) 2-6-0’s Nos. 42964 (6B Mold Junction), 42970 (6B Mold Junction). Class 4F 0-6-0’s Nos. 44389, 44450 (6B Mold Junction), 44525. Class 5 4-6-0’s Nos. 44686, 44687, 44738, 44739, 44762 (5A Crewe – North), 44764 (5A Crewe – North), 44768 (8A Edge Hill – Liverpool), 44774, 44780, 45004, 45149, 45282, 45311, 45316 (9H Patricroft), 45325, 45327, 45369, 45403 (6A Chester), 45424 (9H Patricroft), 45429 (6A Chester), 45493 (6J Holyhead). Royal Scot Class 4-6-0’s Nos. 46144 The Honourable Artillery Company (5A Crewe – North), 46148 The Manchester Regiment. Class 3F 0-6-0T’s Nos. 47361, 47507, 47558, 47669. Class 8F 2-8-0 No. 48246.

BR: Britannia Class 4-6-2 No. 70045 Lord Rowallan (6J Holyhead). Class 2 2-6-2T’s Nos. 84001, 84003, 84009, 84020.

BR Britannia Class 4-6-2 No. 70045 Lord Rowallan
BR Britannia Class 4-6-2 No. 70045 Lord RowallanA once common sight along the North Wales Coast main line when allocated to 6J Holyhead, by January 1966 BR Britannia Class 4-6-2 No. 70045 Lord Rowallan found itself on the books at 12A Carlisle (Kingmoor) a depot it was to die at during the week ending 30th December 1967. Lord Rowallan is seen here on an express duty at Carnforth on 17th June 1967. Photograph by Peter Hands

6H BANGOR

LMS: Class 2 2-6-2T’s Nos. 41200, 41226, 41233, 41234. Class 4 2-6-4T’s Nos. 42074, 42075, 42076, 42198, 42209, 42282, 42283, 42309, 42353, 42368, 42446, 42487, 42567, 42601. Class 5 4-6-0’s Nos. 44800 (6B Mold Junction), 45048 (5A Crewe – South), 45247, 45277 (6G Llandudno Junction). Class 2 2-6-0 No. 46442. Class 3F 0-6-0T No. 47511. Class 8F 2-8-0’s Nos. 48435 (6C Birkenhead), 48771 (6G Llandudno Junction).

BR: Class 4 4-6-0’s Nos. 75018, 75035. Class 2 2-6-0’s Nos. 78003, 78058, 78059.

MONDAY 15th JULY

PORTMADOC MPD (sub shed of 89C Machynlleth)

BR: Class 4 4-6-0 No. 75035 (6H Bangor). Class 3 2-6-2T No. 82009 (89C).

DYFFRYN ARDUDWY STATION

BR: Class 4 4-6-0’s Nos. 75002 (89C Machynlleth), 75020 (89B Croes Newydd), 75029 (89B Croes Newydd). Class 3 2-6-2T No. 82009 (89C Machynlleth) – all on local passenger workings.

TUESDAY 16th JULY

DYFFRYN ARDUDWY STATION

BR: Class 4 2-6-4T No. 80105 (89C Machynlleth). Class 3 2-6-2T No. 82034 (89C Machynlleth) – both on local passenger workings.

89C MACHYNLLETH

GWR: 2251 Class 0-6-0 No. 3213.

LMS: Class 2 2-6-0 No. 46520.

BR: Class 4 2-6-4T No. 80105. Class 3 2-6-2T No. 82020.

In store:

GWR: 2251 Class 0-6-0’s Nos. 2271, 2276.

BR Class 4 2-6-4T No. 80105
BR Class 4 2-6-4T No. 80105Noted earlier in the day with a local passenger at Dyffryn Ardudwy station on 16th July BR Class 4 2-6-4T No. 80105 is photographed being rotated on the turntable at 89C Machynlleth. Despite its clean external condition it was due for an overhaul being recorded at Crewe Works on 29th September 1963. Photograph by Peter Hands

84H WELLINGTON

GWR: 5700 Class 0-6-0PT No. 9636.

LMS: Class 2 2-6-2T’s Nos. 41232, 41241.

In store:

GWR 5700 Class 0-6-0PT’s Nos. 4605. 9741.

GWR 5700 Class 0-6-0Pt No. 9636
GWR 5700 Class 0-6-0Pt No. 9636The shed pilot at 84H Wellington on 16th July was GWR 5700 Class 0-6-0Pt No. 9636 seen here basking in the warm summer sunshine, minus shedplate, in front of the dilapidated running shed with a small rake of coal empties. The future for No. 9636 was bleak with condemnation looming on the horizon in October 1963. Photograph by Peter Hands